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The only reason I didn't give this book a five was that he went less into the rise and development of political Islam in respose TO the US foreign policy that he described pretty thoroughly.
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While there are some insightful sections in this book about the difference of secularism in Islam vs secularism in Christianity, it is mostly about the proxy wars and CIA influence in the US since Vietnam. For those that aren't familiar with
The beginning of this book would have the reader believe that it is going to talk about political Islam and the question of how 9/11 happened. It doesn't however. Instead it says, essentially, political Islam is not about terror and besides, you did it first.While there are some insightful sections in this book about the difference of secularism in Islam vs secularism in Christianity, it is mostly about the proxy wars and CIA influence in the US since Vietnam. For those that aren't familiar with this, it is insightful, but for me, it was simply rehashing things I have known for a while. Yes, I know of the Iran-Contra affair, yes I know of the assassination of Patrice Lamumba, etc.
I give this book 4 stars simply because the rehash of history is well done for those not already very familiar with it. I would have liked this book to look more closely at the intersection of US political strategy and political Islam as we know it today rather than a history of how the US has trained guerrilla fighters that we've come to regret later.
...moreThe link between Islam and terrorism became a central media concern following September 11, resulting in new rounds of "culture talk. This talk has turned religious experience into a political category, differentiating 'good Muslims" from "bad Muslims, rather than terrorists from civilians. The implication is undisguised: Whether in Afghanistan, Palestine, or Pakistan, Islam must be quarantined and the devil must be exorcized from it by a civil war between good Muslims and bad Muslims. Beyond the simple but radical suggestion that if there are good Muslims and bad Muslims, there must also be good Westerners and bad Westerners, the very tendency to read Islamist politics as an effect of Islamic civilization—whether good or bad—and Western power as an effect of Western civilization. Both those politics and that power are born of an encounter, and neither can be understood outside of the history of that encounter. Cultural explanations of political outcomes tend to avoid history and issues. Thinking of individuals from "traditional" cultures in authentic and original terms, culture talk dehistoricizes the construction of political identities. This book places the terror of September 11 in a historical and political context. Rather than a residue of a premodern culture in modern politics, terrorism is best understood as a modern construction. Even when it harnesses one or another aspect of tradition and culture, the result is a modern ensemble at the service of a modern project.
P.S. Read this book only if you know about orientalism. ...more
The best accompli
De-linking Islam from the roots of terror is no easy fit and from that perspective, this book is a monumental undertaking. Yet, Mahmood Mamdani writes with an ease rare among his peers, hopping from politics to history to philosophy with seeming abandon. The density of information might often present a real obstacle to reading fluidity; yet, for the major part, his incisive analysis is too good to be passed up for something else that might be more amenable to a relaxed reading..The best accomplishment of this book is the differentiation between two strands of analysis as it pertain to Islam and Terrorism: The "Culture Talk" and The "Politics Talk". Culture talk attempts to find the causes of the violence perpetrated by an individual or a group in the culture of said individual or group. The cultural traits that dominate the causality debate are either religious (Al Qaeda, Taliban) or racial ("Black-on-black" violence in Apartheid South Africa) identity. On the other hand, Politics Talk sees violence largely as a manifestation of the historical and political grievances of a dis-enfranchised group of people. In the author's view, the latter, and not the former, is the preferred way if we truly want to address and redress global terror. This book also does a pretty good job of distinguishing Islamic Terror from Political Islam by showing that not all varieties of Political Islam degenerated into terrorist movements. Some, like that of Jinnah in pre-partition India, were deeply rooted in secularism.
All in all, this book makes for a rich read, as you would expect from something recommended by THE NOAM CHOMSKY. However, that does not mean that this book can only lend itself to the expert. Each chapter offers enough backdrop and introductory details for the uninitiated too. And therein lies the true strength of this work.
...moreThe author doesn't really explain this. Again, how come the USA intelligence agency betraying the very people they serve and protect? ...more
"America cannot occupy the world. It has to learn to live in it."
This book was difficult for me, as someone born in 1992 and who really came of age in post-9/11 America. My eternal refrain bewailing the state of the U.S.'s public education must be repeated again: many of the political events related in this book were incredibly difficult to understand because I knew nothing or next-to-nothing about them. The Cold War era through, pretty much, George W. Bush's presidency just . . . isn't real
"America cannot occupy the world. It has to learn to live in it."
This book was difficult for me, as someone born in 1992 and who really came of age in post-9/11 America. My eternal refrain bewailing the state of the U.S.'s public education must be repeated again: many of the political events related in this book were incredibly difficult to understand because I knew nothing or next-to-nothing about them. The Cold War era through, pretty much, George W. Bush's presidency just . . . isn't really taught in most public schools? At least, it wasn't taught in mine.
Still, I think it's a critical text for American citizens, not the least because it contextualizes our place on the world stage and provides a more comprehensive understanding of the political events leading up to the present. Mamdani stresses in the latter part of his book that the U.S. controls public perception of its actions (its atrocities) abroad through carefully controlled media and the framing of our actions in a righteous "good" vs. "evil" fashion. It's also sadly true that they control public perception through the lack of education and the rewriting or plain erasing of historical fact. When you know nothing of the horrors your country committed ten, twenty, or even two years ago in some far-away country you can't even point out on a map, it isn't that hard to be led in any direction a skilled propagandist wants you to be led.
One of the best takeaways from this text was the earlier discussion regarding the perceived morality/justness of colonization - and the amount of violence allowed - based on the so-called "civility" of the place being occupied ("savage" cultures vs. pseudo-Westernized ones). I of course loved that Mamdani did the work of holding the United States responsible for the terror it has cultivated abroad for its own political purposes, terror which has now grown out of our control and which we very desperately refuse to admit culpability for creating (esp. the role of the CIA in working with drug lords and training troops to wage our proxy wars). I also really appreciated the sheer amount of effort that went into drawing connections between key political events spanning half a century and multiple continents. It got muddled at times, both because of my own ignorance and because I think the scope of this work was enormous, but ultimately it provided me, the reader, with a very necessary historical and political context, which I will take into other readings.
My main complaint is that the citations in this edition, at least, were terrible. We had a huge amount of chapter notes tucked away in the back, but no citations on the page indicating that anything was being referenced. I don't care if it's a valid citation style; I think it hurts the credibility of the author's arguments. It was as if he was trying to hide his endnotes for some reason, which is probably not true but is nevertheless the vibe I ended up with.
I also noticed a breakdown in the lucidity of his arguments where the Israeli-Palestinian conflict was concerned, particularly in the last chapter when he begins to discuss the U.S.'s relationship with Israel. I'm not pro-Israel (I actually don't know enough about it to be pro-either of them at this point), but even I could see that his arguments became thin, emotional, and less supported by fact in those sections.
A lot of great information in here, much of which surprised and dismayed me, and some interesting arguments made by Mamdani.
...moreVery insightful for those who would like to learn more about the history of terrorism, and the US's involvement in created the terrorists of today.
Excellent read!Very insightful for those who would like to learn more about the history of terrorism, and the US's involvement in created the terrorists of today.
...moreHe does 3 things well:
1. Analyse US foreign policy for the past 30 years and the role it has played in creation of "terrorist groups" such as Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. A history often overlooked and simply blamed on religion itself. The two-faced nature of US foreign policy in the attainmen
Enjoyed Mamdani's rise analysis of the current criteria used to judge Muslims. Great analysis that looks deeper than the superficial sensationalized views portrayed by modern media of the minority of Muslims.He does 3 things well:
1. Analyse US foreign policy for the past 30 years and the role it has played in creation of "terrorist groups" such as Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. A history often overlooked and simply blamed on religion itself. The two-faced nature of US foreign policy in the attainment of their own objectives and rise to the be the sole superpower of the world.
2. The criterion used imposed by non-muslims to judge muslims as either good or bad, a criteria foreign to Islam.
3. Identify the ideologues and modern day intellectuals who pioneered the school of thought championed by modern day organizations to justify their means and methods employed.
Great book for all to understand modern day political trends and worldviews.
...moreWhile it's clear that a lot of research went into the book, its structure is totally muddled, as he goes on tangents constantly throughout, and, unlike the rest of his work, the theoretical perspectives he tries to bring in are incoherent and
Mamdani provides a lot of important detail about the roots of the modern terror, starting from U.S. late Cold War policy in Vietnam, to proxy warfare in Southern Africa, Central America, and Central Asia, to invasion of Afghanistan and finally the Gulf War.While it's clear that a lot of research went into the book, its structure is totally muddled, as he goes on tangents constantly throughout, and, unlike the rest of his work, the theoretical perspectives he tries to bring in are incoherent and explained poorly. Which is shame, considering how important his other books are.
Ultimately, there's a lot of useful information that, at the same time, isnt particularly groundbreaking. If you want to understand the roots of Islamist terror, I'd recommend Lawrence Wright or Robert Fisk.
...moreThe author uses a lot of foreshadowing and I enjoyed the copious amount of "aha!" moments once I stopped flipping back to other chapters thinking I hadn't grasped something I had read previously. Really a thoroughly researched and well presented look into the cost of the US' moral Author writes in a dense manner, but the topic is complex, his scope is global, and the book isn't even 300 pages. Still, I read the last paragraph considerably changed in the way I viewed the US hegemony post Cold War.
The author uses a lot of foreshadowing and I enjoyed the copious amount of "aha!" moments once I stopped flipping back to other chapters thinking I hadn't grasped something I had read previously. Really a thoroughly researched and well presented look into the cost of the US' moral ambiguity when it comes to foreign policy with it's banner of "Law & Order". ...more
Overall though, a great book that many should read, it's just not super readable...
Brilliant book. I had a hard time with it primarily being a historical account of how the US shot itself in the foot by overimposing itself and "democracy" into other countries. Wished it could have gone into psychology, anthropology, and how politics played into that a bit more instead of just a historical account throughout.Overall though, a great book that many should read, it's just not super readable...
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